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A Conversation About Miscarriage, Racial In-Justice, and Choosing Adoption

Season 20, Episode 159

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Loss, grief, and devastation are all part of the adoption journey at one point or another. But add in miscarriage, racial in-justice, and overcoming communication barriers and you've got quite a story. Our interview today has all of these storylines.

We often have interviews on the podcast that we could simply keep going and going and going. Our conversation with Heath and Ligia Cushman (pronounced LEE-HE-UH) was just that. We talked about the pain and agony of miscarriage, dealing with the anxiety of being a black Latina women in the south, how transracial adoptees will play a big role in racial reconciliation in this country, and how to foster open and honest conversations with our children about race, loss and grief in adoption, and so much more. It was one of the most valuable hours we have ever spent on this show. You will LOVE our conversation with Heath and Ligia Cushman.

A little more about Heath and Ligia…

Inspired by her very deep and personal connections to adoption, fueled by being the daughter of immigrants and motivated by the realities of a complex society, Ligia has become a fierce advocate for adopted children and multiracial families. Her ability to have authentic conversations about her Afro-Latina experience, adopting a mixed-race child, and being married interracially to Heath for 20+ years is genuine and insightful.

Part of Heath and Ligia’s personal mission is to address how differences of class, culture, and race impact adoption in today’s world. They are dedicated to changing the narrative surrounding adoption by introducing a modern understanding of adoption through Ligia’s own professional and personal story. She shares her intimate journey through speaking engagements and written works.

Ligia’s book is entitled Heard: How Loss Led Us to Love. It points to the idea that adoption starts with loss for all those in the triad. It also points to hope in redemption and relationship. In 2019, Book Authority named Heard one of the top books of the year.

How to connect with Heath and Ligia…

Also on the show…

  • It’s our 20th Season of The Honestly Adoption Podcast! After more than 5 years and over 600,000 downloads, we’re going strong. Stop by our podcast page and check us out!
  • BIG Shout-Out to our sponsor, CapeAble Weighted Products. Visit their site today at www.capeable.com!

Thanks for stopping by this week… 🙂

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PODCAST

A Conversation About Miscarriage, Racial In-Justice, and Choosing Adoption

Season 20, Episode 159
Loss, grief, and devastation are all part of the adoption journey at one point or another. But add in miscarriage, racial in-justice, and overcoming communication barriers and you've got quite a story. Our interview today has all of these storylines.

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